Liner Notes

Liam and Me is:

Matt O’Dowd – Vocals, Keys, Guitar, Strings
Dan Larkin – Guitar, Vocals
Kevin McKenzie – Bass, Guitar
Jon Briks – Drums, Percussion

Credits

Produced by Wired All Wrong (Matt Mahaffey and Jeff Turzo).

Additional tracking by Chris James.

“Pretender,” “Say It Out Loud,” “I Thought You Knew,” and “It’s A Shame” mixed by Mark Endert.

All other tracks mixed by Kyle Black.

Mastered by Kyle Black.

Cover photograph by Jon Stars.

Letters built by Dave Carlson and Matt O’Dowd.

“Pretty Black Dress” guitar solo played by Aaron Kipnis.

Additional backing vocals provided by Mikey Hines.

Additional percussion by Ryan Petrillo.

Management, Legal, Labels, Booking, Acknowledgements:
John Davis
Jonathan Koby
Ryan Ogren
Kerry Ogren
Jessie Rendell
Anna Drozdowski
Katie Reilly
Dave Stein
Gary Adelman
Peter Torres
Nora and Piper
Heather Peggs
The Dan Friedman Show (call your mother)
Mike Mori
Corrie Christopher
Megan Kessler
Meredith Peters
Cristen Penn
Don Rohr
David Wolter
Vineland and Franklinville, NJ
Jay “Persi-cutie” Persicetti

Sponsors:
The O’Dowd Family
The Larkin Family
The McKenzie Family
The Briks Family
Mr. Matt Canno
Mr. Patrick Reardon

Dedication

Primarily written and recorded from 2005 – 2007, Lives We Might Have Lived is oddly prophetic. Its about accepting a life that you’re never quite ready for, and all the weird adventures along the way. It is about transition, and all the highs and lows that come with it. There are moments of brilliance. Moments that make us cringe. We hope you enjoy them all.

We are releasing this album all across the internets, as bands do nowadays. You may buy it on iTunes and Amazon if you like, download it for free on our website, or listen anytime on Spotify. Please share it with anyone you think might like it.

This record is dedicated to everyone who celebrated with us when things were great, and supported when things were not. We feel very grateful. It was a wild, weird, and wonderful ride that we will never forget, even if we often wonder what might have been.

Thank you,
Liam and Me
The Story behind Liam and Me and Lives We Might Have Lived

Though the band members have been playing music together for many years, Liam and Me formally assembled in 2004 with its current lineup, sonic direction, and home base in Philadelphia. After releasing a few self produced EPs and the LP There’s A Difference in 2006, we were discovered by The Company Management and began showcasing for major labels with some degree of fanfare. It was a very exciting time.

But with the skyrocketing popularity of Mp3s, iPods, digital distribution, and file-sharing, the music industry was in a very strange place. Labels were merging and folding left and right, and everyone was concerned about the future. We passed on a great deal to pursue some potentially better offers, all of which fizzled during contract revisions. Liam and Me finally signed with Thrive Records, inking our names at the kitchen table. A smaller deal, but a promising and passionate label. The band headed to Los Angeles in 2007 to record with some of our favorite musicians ever. Ambitions were high and time was short, but we made an album we were all proud of.

After tracking was completed, we flew directly from the studio to start our first national tour, leaving the producers to finish the record. We played some epic shows and had some great adventures, but the real trouble was just beginning. Thrive was having financial issues, and could not afford to pay our producers, mixers, or even our advance. We continued to tour and waited, but the record was on hold.

It soon became clear that Thrive’s situation was not improving, and we could not wait forever. A clause in our contract allowed to exit the deal with the rights to our record if Thrive could not fulfill their financial obligations. When they bounced our advance check in 2008, we served them notice and started looking for other labels. There were several interested parties.

But while Thrive could not afford to pay our producers, they found the money to pay their lawyers. When we tried to leave, they fought. Our only options were to quit, wait, or fight back. We fought back.

The process dragged on for over a year, and with our record and band tied up in litigation, there wasn’t much else we could do. We spent a small fortune, and lost a lot of momentum. Finally Thrive offered a settlement. They would let us go if we bought our record back from them. The price was steep. After all we’d been through it was a pretty shitty deal, but we were confident another label would pick up our record. We emptied our savings, and raised the money from family and friends. It was 2009, and we were finally free.

World-renowned mixer Mark Endert did an amazing job on a few single mixes, and we started showcasing and playing again. But thinks were different. Our sound was not as exciting as it was when we signed, and many of our industry contacts had moved on or left the business. All the majors passed, but we still had an offer from Drexel University’s Mad Dragon records. It was not ideal, but we were happy to have an enthusiastic group behind us. As we were about to sign, they informed us they could not move forward with the deal.

After our quick and promising rise and long protracted fall, morale was at an all time low. We were sick of struggling, sick of each other, sick of the record. We all drank a ton. Some smart and enthusiastic supporters tried to help us get back on our feet, but the disappointment and inertia was too hard to overcome. We owed tens of thousands of dollars to our family and friends. We put the record aside, and started to move on with our lives.

Jon left to go work for our former booking agency and move in with a lovely lady. Dan went to Memphis to get a Ph.D in philosophy. Matt began working in advertising as a copywriter and composer, and moved to New York. McKenzie followed shortly after to work at Sony Music. We all found some success and happiness in other pursuits. But we all miss the music, the experiences, and our friends and fans. And regardless of how things play out for all of us, we’ll always wonder what might have happened if we said yes instead of no, and did a few things differently. The lives we might have lived.

 

 

 

 

 

 

15 thoughts on “Liner Notes

  1. I am so sad to find out that this happened to you guys. I still am a big fan of your music, and I just purchased the disc on iTunes. I hope to see you all play again someday.

  2. I remember seeing you guys back in 2008 in Atlanta alongside “steel train” and “spill canvas”. Even though I can’t exactly remember the music I do still remember the emotional impact it had on me while I was listening from the front row. I am glad you guys are back and can’t wait to sit down and listen to the blood, sweat, and tears that were obviously shed to make this a reality. You guys truly are inspiring.

  3. I fucking love you guys and I am SO glad you guys have a full album out now. I saw you play a few years ago at the House of Blues in Anaheim and fell in love instantaneously. Hopefully you come back to LA soon because we miss you. Keep your heads up and I’m so sorry to read about all the bs your old label put you all through. Your fans will always love you and your music!!!

  4. What a shitty story. I have waited years for this album and remember exactly where and how I found out about you dudes. Glad to see you all seem to be happy and I finally can listen to this bad boy.

  5. First heard you guys during an “OC” Phi Kap mixer at UPenn (circa 2006). I’m the creepy guy who has come up to Matt at several NY shows and introduced myself as a huge fan/fellow brother. Glad to hear from you guys – sorry to hear things turned out this way. Hope to see you guys at the reunion show!

  6. I’m proud of Liam and Me, and you guys should be so proud of this record. Telepathically sending hugs to all of you (even Larkin). Love you all!

    xo D

  7. i remember you telling me this story, and it blew my mind then. it still blows my mind reading it this evening. you guys got the short end of the stick, but deserve so much more. thanks for making me a part of this!

  8. I can’t believe how much you guys have been through these past few years. I still remember the first time I heard your songs on a local radio station back in early 2008. And I still have a Liam and Me t-shirt from Bamboozle that year. It’s been a while, but I’m excited to hear this album. I love the name and the meaning behind it, but I wouldn’t worry too much about what could have been– you’re where you are for a reason and things will ultimately work themselves out. Good luck in the future and I really hope this isn’t the last we hear from you!

  9. I remember when I first saw you guys in Worcester, MA when you played a show with Yellowcard in 2008. You guys were amazing, and I was hooked from then on. I managed to find a hard copy of “There’s A Difference” and got my friends hooked! I always knew there was legal shit going on but god that’s horrible :/ But, you guys should be proud of what you did, and what you overcame to do it! Despite what the future holds, you’ll always be one of my favorite bands and good luck for whatever comes!

  10. I’m sorry that this happened to you guys. I’ve been a fan since 2006 or so, when I heard one of your songs on WMMR back when I listened to the radio. I’ve been waiting a long time for the release but the sad story of this album sort of puts a damper the experience. Cheers.

  11. First heard you guys at a backyard house party at Penn ~2005/2006 and luckily was able to snag a CD. It was rainy and sloppy, but I have been a fan ever since. I thought for sure you were destined for fame, and it is tragic to read what you all went through. Congrats on the album, it is truly fantastic.

  12. Damn –
    You made a freaking great album.
    The story is so typical of the age, and music industry right now.
    While I often felt like the only musical admirer who wasn’t a screming teenage girl, I always thought you made intelligent, CATCHY, danceable pop music.
    Fucking shame.
    John Shaughnessy

  13. Hey guys,

    just found your album while browsing the net. Really love your music and as I’m currently Head of Music for the German radio station bonncampus 96,8, I think I’ll put “Pretender” in Hot Rotation for a few weeks, if that’s okay with you. Let’s see if we can get a few guys over here to listen to your music!

    Greetings from Germany,
    Felix

  14. It sucks to hear about what happened to you guys. I loved there’s a difference and have periodically checked back to see if there was any new music. Had no idea what was going on behind the scenes.

    Thank you for making music!

  15. Omg! The fact that this happened to you guys overwhelms me. If it’s any condolence I am a pop producer with a production company. It’s newly started but there’s big names in there already. If we grow, you guys will be in the back of my mind. If I can help in any way with the producing that I do and with my production team let me know! Maybe the lives you could have lived can turn into the lives you were set out to live.

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